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McCain: The Next Faux Cowboy

Markos asks in today’s DKos Midday Open Thread:

Was McCain really trying to pretend he has a ranch?

The answer is: Yes. He has been pretending for a long time now

Exhibit A, from a February 2007 Vanity Fair Article when his campaign was in the crapper:

Photo Credit: Jonas Karlsson, Vanity Fair

My favorite part of the article:

And still McCain pushes himself, as if to combat any hint of diminished capacity. Last summer, he hiked the Grand Canyon rim to rim with his son, Jack, 20, now in his second year at Annapolis. He says the descent was torture on his knees, until a park ranger offered him some pills partway down.

It was—am I saying this right?—I.V. Propen. The stuff’s a fucking miracle drug!” It doesn’t seem fair to tell him the drug is nothing more miraculous than Advil. McCain will repeat the ibuprofen story a time or two over the course of 48 hours, and he brings it up again when I see him about a month later.

I.V. Propen…what a ‘regular guy’

 
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Posted by on July 30, 2008 in John McCain

 

Midweek Open Thread

It may not be the bubonic plague, but I feel like crap.

Here’s what’s shaking in the news:

 
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Posted by on July 30, 2008 in open thread

 

Sites Covering Jon Justice’s Sexual Escapades

The list of sites calling out Jon Justice’s racist and sexist behavior on 104.1 “The Truth” is growing everyday.

And for good reason – while I picked up on this story last week in a mocking fashion, the reality is that Jon Justice’s webisodes crossed so many lines that it speakes volumes that 104.1 “The Truth” (not) hasn’t fired him yet while he was canned from a previous gig for simulating a dog drowning.

Yes. Pretending to kill a dog on air was enough to get him fired at another radio station, while Justice’s perverted video stunts with the Isabel Garcia piñata/pseudo blow-up doll has yet to motivate the corporate powers that be at the Journal Broadcast Group to remove him from the airwaves like a dusty fart in a closed room.

This is not about Isabel Garcia’s work, which everyone on this earth knows Justice loathes. The second 104.1 “The Truth” allowed him to assert his male dominance over her effigy in a sexualized manner, doing so with hateful intentions, he reprised his role as a simulator of violence, this time summoning shadows of rape and molestation.

“Oh, it was just a piñata. You’re overreacting.”

That argument doesn’t hold a candle to justice for Justice, because this entire situation has come about due to his wailing and gnashing of teeth at the audacity of protesters handling a piñata in the way they are designed. As 104.1 The Truth’s Jon Justice said in his own words:

I dont know about you, but when I see children beating up on the likeness of a human being, and then another person like isabel garcia … picking up the head of that likeness of a person … and then parading that around I would take that as a threat of physical violence

—Jon Justice

Given those incriminating observations, Justice shouldn’t be too surprised that he is receiving the growing backlash that he deserves.

On top of the misogynistic routine he broadcast to the world on the internet, he weaved the sexual violation of the Isabel Garcia piñata with the all-too-familiar racism that those of us who have brown skin have seen grow bold in recent years. No longer is it lurking in shadowy meetings in hushed voices, now it’s laid bare on teevee, radio, the web, anywhere that a nativist can gain access.

It’s another form of reasserting dominance. That Isabel Garcia is a woman, and a woman of color at that, made it too enticing for such a small human being like Jon Justice to bypass the bait. It wasn’t even one minute into his perverted video before he made it clear to his opponents that he was going to show her who was in charge.

Well…sorry 104.1 “The Truth”, Jon Justice (not his real name), and other nativist haters – there are legions of us who have had enough of your simulated phallic-waving. Your era is coming to an end each time you cross enough lines where a young or young-at-heart person realizes the rotting core of racism, sexism and xenophobia coming out of your antequated view of the world.

And to bring this back to the beginning of the circle that is both the past and future, think of all the children that you’re detaining and/or deporting parents – one day they will be old enough to vote and lead civically; and people like Isabel Garcia, me, and countless human rights activists will still be around to remind them who was leading and supporting the racist posse.

 

Another Talking Point Bites The Dust

So much for Barack Obama’s “latino problem” that the talking heads love to pretend exists, when really, like much of their reporting, little of it is based in reality. Ratings are what drive the narrative.

Hispanic registered voters support Democrat Barack Obama for president over Republican John McCain by 66% to 23%, according to a nationwide survey of 2,015 Latinos conducted by the Pew Hispanic Center, a project of the Pew Research Center, from June 9 through July 13, 2008.

The presumptive Democratic nominee’s strong showing in this survey represents a sharp reversal in his fortunes from the primaries, when Obama lost the Latino vote to Hillary Rodham Clinton by a nearly two-to-one ratio, giving rise to speculation in some quarters that Hispanics were disinclined to vote for a black candidate.

But in this new survey, three times as many respondents said being black would help Obama (32%) with Latino voters than said it would hurt him (11%); the majority (53%) said his race would make no difference to Latino voters.

Pew Hispanic Center Report

That being said, Obama’s campaign still needs to do more to strategize and converse with latino media and bloggers. A good start would be to answer the questionnaire.

 
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Posted by on July 24, 2008 in 2008 Election, Barack Obama

 

Thanks for the Traffic, Jon!

It looks like John McCain isn’t the only one who can’t quite figure out these here internet tubes work. The Journal Broadcast Group doesn’t want the public to know the truth about 104.1 The Truth’s insistence on promoting sexism, racism, and piñata pr0n by their morning host, Jon Justice. They keep working to have the webisodes that they uploaded themselves taken down, not realizing that the moment they went up, dozens of people downloaded them so they can be forever memorialized in the Hate Radio Hall of Shame.

Here’s Justice’s latest message linking to this site, whining to his listeners about the scary bloggers.

In the meantime I also get to deal with blogs like this one that do nothing but make up their own pathetic versions of the story to make me look like I am some horrible monster. This is why it is so hard to wage this battle when people have no morals or ethics by which call standard too.

For someone who advocates an English-only Homeland™, Jon, some tutoring at Pima wouldn’t hurt.


Thanks for the traffic! x0x0

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Posted by on July 24, 2008 in Jon Justice

 

Piñata Pr0n Extraordinaire Jon Justice

There is no greater promoter of human rights and advocate for migrant families in Baja Arizona than Isabel Garcia. She was a recipient of the 2006 Premio Naciónal de Derechos Humanos, presented by the Mexican government for the first time to someone who wasn’t born there, in order to get an idea of the scope of work she’s done. Rather than accept the award, however, she took the opportunity to call a press conference and demand that the affluent and elite south of border do more to promote economic justice among the working classes. It was a perfect example of Isabel’s work to keep the focus on the underlying roots of human migration and exploitation, rather than on herself.

Isabel is one of the major driving forces behind the Coalición de Derechos Humanos, headquartered in Tucson, and that’s just when she’s wearing her organizer hat. She also serves as one of Pima County’s leading Legal Defenders, which has Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s pink underwear in a snit since apparently the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America does not apply to those who serve in government.

You see, Sheriff Joe came to town recently to sign copies of his new book that blames all the ills of society on “illegals”. Well, that type of thing isn’t received the same way in Tucson as it is north of the Gila, so a protest was organized in conjunction with Sheriff Joe’s appearance. A piñata created in Arpaio’s likeness, wearing his trademark pink boxers, was…well, it was a piñata, so you can imagine.

In response to the whole thing, Arpaio and his friends in the racist right’s media empire took to the airwaves in the ironically named radio station 104.1 The Truth in an effort to get Isabel fired from Pima County. The station’s radio personalities spend a majority of their time and advertising money on equating undocumented workers with terrorists, drug dealers, disease carriers, and invaders of the Homeland™ – pretty standard fare for a radio channel that also features Bill “Falafel” O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, Michael Savage, etc etc etc.

One of the local gasbags on 104.1, Jon Justice, filmed a “webisode” of his show where he carressed and fondled a piñata intended to be the likeness of Isabel Garcia. Members of the Coalición de Derechos Humanos released the following statement:

Since last Friday, our office has received numerous hate calls, and Jon Justice has posted a YouTube video of himself with a piñata with Isabel’s likeness, caressing it and making comments about “wanting to take it home with me,” among a few other comments about “chorizo” and “viva la raza.” You can see this video at the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk8pa5GYraQ

We ask you, as community allies, to step up with us in defending Isabel Garcia, demand accountability from 104.1FM and KGUN 9, and that hate speech not be given a platform in our communities.

It is our First Amendment Right, and our duty as members of this society, to denounce anything that goes against the basic human and civil rights that ALL posess. To try to silence those that would condemn torture and raciscm is contrary to the rights of us all!

The YouTube video has since been removed of Jon Justice’s sexual escapades with the piñata, the message says that “This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Journal Broadcast Group” – pretty ridiculous when you consider that it was filmed and distributed as a “webisode” from Jon Justice and his staff. Apparently they realized that they crossed the line where their money flow could be endangered.

Speaking of money, here is the list of advertisers for 104.1 The Truth. There is a massive letter-writing and phone call campaign underway to call these businesses to withdraw their support to these racist and xenophobic messages being broadcast on the airwaves of Baja Arizona:

So far, the following previously listed sponsors have informed us of their intention to immediately withdraw their support of 104.1 FM:

  • Main Gate Square
  • Patio Pools & Spa
  • The Auto Body Shop
  • Advanced Recon
  • Aung Foot Health Clinics
  • Sol Cars

Interestingly, many of them were not even aware that their “package” deal with Journal Broadcasting Group meant advertising on 104.1 FM, and most were not aware of what they were supporting, and would not choose to support intolerance.

In addition, the following companies have expressed concern about this issue, and have assured us that they will be looking into the matter immediately:

  • El Parador
  • Allstate Insurance
  • State Farm Insurance
  • The Wildcat House
  • Maloney’s Tavern
  • Progressive Plumbing
  • Axiom Drafting and Design
  • Integrity Automotive

More information at Derechos Humanos, including sample letters.

Enough is Enough. Please take the time to contact local Pima County officials in support of Isabel Garcia, as well as call on the advertisers of 104.1 “The Truth” to end their support for racism and hate. Gracias.

[UPDATE] The Wildcat House has pulled their ad sponsorship

[UPDATE the 2nd] Here’s the infamous Piñata Pr0n Webisode:

 

Extreme Blog Makeover: Unapologetic Mexican Edition

Nezua has been busy conjuring up the next chapter of The Unapologetic Mexican – El Machete. Make sure you update your bookmarks to reflect the new site. The linkage is below the screen-cap.

Felicidades, Nez. Looks great and I’m looking forward to continuing to read tus palabras at the new digs.

 

Latino Candidates at Netroots Nation

I had the opportunity to meet three latino/latina candidates for Congress at Netroots Nation. Each of them were impressive in their own way and communities in their respective districts should do all they can to learn how connected these individuals are to what’s going on in the streets they’re vying to serve.

Joe Garcia, Florida, District 25

Joe is one the Democratic candidates in Florida showing the GOP-dominated Cuban community that there is a different way of doing things than in the past. With respect to Latin America, his site mentions says “While the fate of Latin America ultimately lies in the hands of its leaders, the United States, and in particular South Florida, has a strategic interest in the well-being of the region. Joe Garcia fully supports the creation of partnerships between ethics reforms institutions in the United States and their counterparts in Central and South America.” A good step in the right direction, in this humble blogger’s opinion.

Joe understands that there is a deeper set of economic issues that affects the mass-migration we’ve seen to the U.S. He spoke eloquently about this at the Latino Caucus, as well as demonstrating that he understands latinos are being attacked culturally by the cries of the far-right.

A sampling of blogs covering Joe Garcia: Florida Speaks, Florida Progressive Coalition Blog, Draft Garcia

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Ben Ray Lujan – New Mexico, District 3

This district is where Bill Richardson came from prior to the Governorship and stints as Ambassador in the Clinton Administration. The incumbent, Tom Udall-D, is vying for the Senate seat in New Mexico that’s up for grabs in November.

On a personal note, it was great to interact with Ben Ray. He attended the Latino Caucus, Latino Bloggers Panel and the Immigration Panel at Netroots Nation. It’s clear that he understands what the latino community is dealing with in the face of an organized far-right movement of hate that screams about immigration issues non-stop. Additionally, he will help New Mexico and the country develop a better energy policy that respects the environment.

A sampling of blogs covering Ben Ray Lujan: New Mexico FBIHOP, Democracy for New Mexico

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Annette Taddeo – Florida, District 18

From the website section entitled Wife, Mother, Advocate: “Annette has dedicated her life here in the South Florida community, working to improve access to education, healthcare and jobs through committee leadership, volunteering, mentoring youth, and her work as a business community leader. She has been a strong advocate for equal rights, fiscal responsibility and bipartisan solutions to our community’s and nation’s problems.”

Marisa Treviño of Latina Lista and I met Annette on Friday morning and learned about her work with LanguageSpeak that assists with translation services and education to grow a more informed populace. At one point, the conversation veered into Spanish with Annette (Columbiana), Markos Moulitsas of DailyKos (Salvadoreño), Marisa and I (Mexicanos) doing the whole “¿De donde eres?” plática. Good stuff.

A sampling of blogs covering Annette Taddeo: Eye on Ileana, Discourse.net, Florida Speaks

 

Liveblogging the Netroots Nation Immigration Panel

Alright, I’m all set up and things are getting ready for the workshop: How to Win the Immigration Debate and Beat Back ICE’s Emerging Police State Info on the panelists and moderator are at the link. I will be updating this post as the session goes, so hit the refresh button. I’ll update it later with links and other bloggy-type stuff.

Joshua Holland of Alternet is the moderator. “Immigration, sadly, is an issue that has failed to get traction in the greater progressive blogosphere. Been relegated to ethnic media and labeled as a “pet issue”. Gross human rights abuses are being committed in the country with little focus. Guantanamo Bay receives global condemnation, but right here in the US the poorest of the poor are being rounded up in a migrant gulag. Many are not charged with crimes, health care access is withheld, etc.

30 minutes to the north of Austin, the T. Don Hutto, half of the detainees are children, as young as three years old. It is a medium-security prison that has been changed very little to house families. ACLU has sued. Guards have threatened children, withheld access to recreation, etc.

Since 9/11, ICE holds more detainees a night than the Clarion has hotel guests each night. Politically, it is a big wedge issue. The question is who will it wedge? “I believe it’s an issue we can win if we embrace it instead of running away, partly because our oponents have overreached.” Republicans have about 40% of their base that are what he calls immigration hardliners. Tom Tancredo ads, for example have gone from subtle to overt racism.

Duke1676: glad to see so many people at the workshop, and also happy to see that there was slot given to immigration reform at this conference since there is often ambivalence about it in the progressive blogosphere.

Green cards are issued for various reasons – those who have family members already citizens, those with special skill sets, education, etc. 1.2 million cards issued last year, only 5000 were for unskilled labor. You can see the disconnect with reality. 7% cap per country, according to the system, can receive a visa. What happens is that countries with small populations end up getting preferencial treatment to larger population countries. The system is basically cobbled together from various laws that often contradict each other.

GOP tactics are very hardlined. Border Security – cameras, walls, razor wires, border patrol agents, etc. It is becoming big business for companies that haven’t been making money in Iraq. Boeing, CCA, Halliburton, etc. going to the border to ‘create another business’ by a whole prison-for-profit system.

Switched from family to merit-system to handle incoming immigration. Shifting of demographics, which before was hemispheric and low-skilled workers, is now going to a more global look. Regarding people already here, we’ve seen different types of legislation that involves fines, permits, deportations, and quota systems that don’t make any sense to reality.

We have to be willing to address what’s happening in sender nations. Economic policies

Marisa Treviño: created a page at http://www.latinalista.net/nn with more information about what she’s sharing today since the time is so short.

ICE will focus on border security and interior operations. 1000 new detention beds will be added, 2000 agents, expanding their 287g program – there are 55 police departments, with 80 pending requests for local law enforcement agencies to enforce federal immigration laws. While they say they don’t profile, they do.

Reasonable Doubt, East Valley Tribune in Phoenix, looked at Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s 387g program. Recommends the read to see what’s happening. The reporter did a ride-a-long with a detective and wrote about his experience. Lots of abuses with the 387g program. Nashville, TN – there was a mother who was 9 months pregnant, she went in to labor early, treated like a midlevel criminal. Shackled until right before the birth. Criminalization is growing in this country. Immigration charges are now outpacing white collar crime and drug offenses.

Hand in hand is the way ICE goes about enforcing their programs. In Laurel, MD, five agents arrived at a home, were there to arrest a mother and her daughter. The husband was legal, asked the agents what authority they had to enter his home. The response was a gun to the head. Children witnessed all of this. They are doing pre-dawn raids, dragging them out of beds, it has become traumatic. Legal citizens are also jailed and mischaracterized.

ICE is now starting to target children. They will go by schools and park their vans to send a message. It is really sending a mistrust of law enforcement and fear. We are receiving more reports of children needing psychiatric help from the trauma. Many times children, often citizens, are separated from their parents – automatically putting them in the CPS system, creating orphans.

Detention facilities – many reports of sexual abuse of female detainees. Groups trying to expose the abuse and negligence. Voices from Detention – chronicled abuses at a center in the northwest. ICE’s response – it was a “work of fiction”. Regarding T. Don Hutto, they changed their tune about community outrage reached a level that caused attention to their abuses of the detainees and children.

Jackie Mahendra: After the failure of comprehensive immigration reform. We are seeing in the absence of federal reform, we are seeing state and local laws being patched together that are affecting different issues. 43 states passed 182 laws concerning immigration last year – enforcement, not reform. The 287g program has taken a different form depending on where you’re at in the country. In Missouri, two directives were passed – one regarding 287g which gave local cops to get training to become immigration agents. The other was to force all contractors to verify the citizen status of workers. E-Verify system is unreliable, there is a lawsuit in Illinois to stop the requirement of employers needing to use it.

Forced status check required for residents by landlords to keep undocumented migrants from being able to rent. Creates a hostile climate. In Maricopa County, Sheriff Joe Arpaio is charging migrant workers with smuggling laws. They are being charged for smuggling themselves. This week a lawsuit was filed against the Sheriff and his office due to racial profiling.

In Arizona, there is now talk about how to create a guest-worker program to bring workers back in to the state after they left due to hostile in environments. Economics are being affected. There are ways to integrate immigration populations.

Josh Holland: Want to talk about where the debate needs to go. Supported ‘comprehensive immigration reform’ in the past but having to swallow a lot of compromise that wasn’t worth it. Now that there have two failed attempts, thinks we need to strive for a more progressive vision of immigration reform. Pivot Points for the GOP – focused on law enforcement, nativism/fear of outsiders. Need to work on workplace reform. We need to talk about conditions for workers.

Conservatives have taken on the thought of “anarchy” that immigrants are a de-stabling the country. Argues that it’s true, but the anarchy is rather in workplaces. Private Prison system has been revived after a drop in the late 90s due to the new police state that is emerging. Our opponents don’t want to address a reform of the system, they are only about law enforcement.

We need to work on backlogs, we need to better develop skill sets, we need to address economics because migrant workers get targeted in times of economic anxiety – and we are certainly in a period like that. We need to talk about how corn/agribusiness in Mexico and trade agreements like NAFTA have decimated work industries south of the border and driven migration. Take responsibility and as progressives push for worker protections, etc.

“Immigrants do the jobs Americans won’t do” – not true. We need to understand that millions of Americans do the jobs side-by-side. Millions of workers are being cheated out of their wages, work in unsafe conditions, etc. and we can

Q&A – talk more about guest workers? feels like they are a form of indentured servitude

Duke: so far, in legislation, we haven’t seen how there is any path to citizenship. The question is: what is a temporary job? is there such a thing? what’s the purpose of a guestworker program? When we’re using it to fill permanent jobs on a temporary basis, then exploitation and problems will be widespread.

Q: Highly skilled labor – aren’t the companies natural allies?
Duke: H1B program is capped out at 65,000 per year – run out in the first day or so. They are being monopolized by groups and industries. There needs to be reform to tie them to reality.
Jackie: we were trying to collaborate, but it’s difficult

Q: politically, why do we identify people by a crime they committed?
Josh: we have not been in the lead to frame this issue. We are trying to catch up to an organized conservative movement. There is a lot of debate on language, but we have to coordinate.

Q: how do we do public education on the brokenness of the immigration system?
Marisa: “seeing is believing” – but this debate has been so highjacked that any attempts at a middle-of-the-road approach is characterized as amnesty. We just have to keep on keep on keep on, etc.

Comment: Postville, people were forced by prosecutors to sign paperwork claiming guilty charges for criminal charges. Dept of Justice is colluding ICE for charging and increasing police state.

There is a movement afoot regarding the 14th Amendment to get rid of the birth-right provisions. That’s how extreme of an opponent we’re dealing with.

Comment: what’s up with the Minutemen and how do we deal with them?
Duke: we have to document and expose them. Dave Neiwert mentions that he will have a piece in American Prospect soon with a six-month investigation on their finances.

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Posted by on July 18, 2008 in immigration, Netroots Nation

 

Liveblogging the "Dos Centavos" Latino Blogger Panel

Live from Austin, Texas in Room 19 at Netroots Nation. This post will be updated as the session goes. I’ll finalize it afterwards with all kinds of linky goodness.

Matt Ortega, Moderator:

Two questions he gets the most 1) who are the latino bloggers and 2) what are they writing about?

The perspective you’ll get is on a more human level. Don’t cover polls or horserace politics so much, but rather on the people and how many communities are affected. Many wear the cultura on their sleeve in the writing and design of sites.

Regarding immigration, we are trying to point out that it is more than a “latino issue” – it affects many different communities.

Panelists are giving introductions. Information for all of them is here.

Discussing how our communities care about many issues, like education, healthcare, the war in Iraq, immigration, etc. just like the greater community, but it affects us in a specific way. Drop out rates, lack of latinos in college, women and the abuse seen in ICE detentions, are some examples.

Question: What brought you to blogging?

Mynor Rodriguez: ironically, it had nothing to do with being a latino, but rather speaking out to bigger civil rights issues that affect many communities. “sometimes you have punch a bully in the face” – in 2003 budgets for prevention were cut and it affected communities.

Edmundo Rocha: researcher by heart, noticed that alot of blogs would post snippets of articles and comment. Interested in seeing what was behind a story, what caused certain things. Got more involved with ePluribusMedia, doing some background research on various stories. People were talking about healthcare, but not about how bad it was in the sense of the hispanic community. “I am one of the statistics” – of people who don’t have coverage. Trying to get role models out there. We got sucked in to the immigration debate with the Sensenbrenner Bill (HR4437). Nonprofits in the barrios were being targeted in his area.

Marisa Treviño: wanted to get a Latina perspective out there. After the immigration bills came out, we got sucked in. Question: do you see gender barriers? Answer: very elitist attitude when it comes to Op/Ed boards. Thankful for the blogosphere, because we are able to write in our voice, and not something that may be expected from a mainstream sources. There are some big blogs out there that could probably use more diversity. As far as writing, doors are opening more in the blogosphere than in the traditional media.

Question: do you believe the internet is colorblind?

Edmundo Rocha: it depends on your blog name. If you go by XicanoPwr, then that’s not being blind. It depends on how you approach stuff. Follow-up question: do you think it should be colorblind? Progressive movement is inclusive.

Mynor Rodriguez: it’s difficult when you’re typecasted. You are limited by the greater blogosphere on your credibility when you want to talk about different topics.

Matt Ortega: human nature feature going on here, where people are organizing and being attracted to others who have similar interests and backgrounds.

Marisa Treviño: we are reaching a point in the latino blogosphere where we are asking “do we want to be bloggers who are latino or latino bloggers”. It’s something I ran in to in mainstream journalist. Wanted to just be a family columnist, but the editor said that he didn’t have a ‘latina columnist’ – at first it put me in a corner, only comment like that, but you end up learning that all issues have an impact on the latino community. not represented very much in traditional media or the blogosphere.

Edmundo Rocha: I started out general. Wanted to use research skills on the inside stories, background. Asks why links were always sent out to the same people.

Matt Ortega: Perceptions of latinos as homogenous group. If you just listen to the panelists today, you see that we are very diverse within our own community. Mexicans and Cubans, etc. Thinks a lot about backgrounds. We have black latinos, asian latinos, etc. When the 2008 Election gets talked about, it’s like we are talked about as one big group. Will we all vote one way or the other? Never gets talked about how anti-war we are, often patriotic, many serve in the military. Many come from disadvantaged communities, and one way to get an education is to join the military.

Mynor Rodriguez: The first casualty of the Iraq War was a latino. Many of our values are the same, religion has a lot to do with it. But we are a very diverse people. We’ve been lumped in, for better or worse. Cubans are going to be different because they have a very different American experience. Mexicans who have been here and had the border cross them have a different view of this country. Salvadorans in New York, etc. Perhaps that’s what we need to do with our blogs, to give that perspective.

Marisa Treviño: That’s a good point, but there is some type of pride involved when we see a latino/latina from any group win an Olympic event, for example. We’ll take credit!

Edmundo Rocha: taking credit can also being dangerous. Alberto Gonzales is an example. How far do we take credit? We have to ask hard questions like do we have to censor our voices in order to be able to get on the media. How do we bring in the community as a whole.

Matt Ortega: focus of a lot of the latino blogosphere is on detention centers, the marches, many things that fell through the cracks of the greater media. Many latino bloggers worked to get the information out. What are your thoughts in getting the content out to pick up steam?

Marisa Treviño: The reason that many of our blogs exist is out of frustration. It is often a response to what we see is not receiving notice from the mainstream press. When first started, would write the post, email the person she wrote about it. Linking is important, people who have empathy on what we’re writing about. Most of the blogs I read, deal with issues that are frustrating us all. That common bond, if you will.

Mynor Rodriguez: Mentions Markos being a latino. Mixed-race American. Platforms where we have such an audience like DailyKos. Opinion-makers, politicians, etc. finally gotten to the point where people are paying attention. Traditional media has failed us the seven years. We’ve taken it upon ourselves to get the news out.

Edmundo Rocha: Detention centers were picked up. But conditions have not changed. Out at the Hutto facility, protests have been covered by us. We can put a human face on what’s happening. Trad/media doesn’t want to hear about immigrants being detained in vans without airconditioning, or 13 people sharing one bottle of water, women being stripsearched in front of men, having to use the bathroom with the door open. When I blog, I blog for them. No one is listening to them. The traditional media just writes their little thing. Goes back to balance, spoke to one gentleman who was afraid of talking because of fear of ICE. Didn’t want his wife deported. Stories like these that need to be told. But what’s the shelf life?

Matt Ortega: problems with disgusting comments at some of the progressive blogosphere when it comes to immigration/pro-migrant threads. Can’t believe they call themselves progressives, broader implications. This issue has been tied to latinos, we don’t grasp why these things happen. Many want to just put a stop-gap instead of solving issues. When we go out to the greater progressive blogosphere, it becomes difficult. “Illegals” get blamed for everything.

Mynor Rodriguez: Tactic of divide and conquer has been done for ages. Many Texas laws have been proposed to blame migrant and latino communities for all the ills. Stopped making arguments to them on a moral basis, they’re not listening, but rather make pragmatic arguments at them. “How are you going to deport 12 million people when the government couldn’t even evacuate New Orleans.”

Edmundo Rocha: It’s not just policy reform, it’s about media reform. Nightly news has a narrative about crime that is racist. Names are Ortega, Rodriguez, etc. We are lumped in by the greater media. Public opinion is based on what people see, so we need reform our media.

Marisa Treviño and Mynor Rodriguez: Think it’s a lost cause to get the traditional media to reform, but there are goals we can set to accomplish something. Push them on identifyiers: don’t use “illegal”. because they are not saying “people without papers”, they are saying something far different.

Matt Ortega: New topic – Sees more latino faces getting involved in campaigns. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton campaigns are training many more community organizes. Hopes to see a new generation of latinos running for office and getting involved. Examples of City Councilman who won a race at age 22.

Before Q&A, want to let everyone know about http://www.LatinoNetroots.com which is a good aggregator. Other site is The Sanctuary. It’s a pro-migrant site that was started by a group of latino bloggers. A place for people to come together and support one another without fear of racist and nativist comments.

Comment from the crowd: I’m Half Persian/Half Mexican – Two of the most forceful advocates in San Antonio for latinos is a white guy and another is a black guy. Looking around the room, there are many different people here, important that we have a seat at the table, a presence. We shouldn’t be typecasted to talking about immigration, baseball and Catholicism. Hutto Facility is no different than Guantanamo.

Lisa from Mothertalkers: how close are latino pundits and public voices to the Democrats? We should have a presence in the way GOP puts latino faces on TV. It would solidify latinos as a constituency when someone like us is able to speak. We need to get Leslie Sanchez, other CHC members to be more presence.

Michael Signorile: we have to inter-connect. We have to work together on campaigns. An example regarding a coordinated attack on the word “illegal”

From the crowd: what are your thoughts on Bill Richardson’s campaign and the fact that he may possibly be a vice presidential selection for Barack Obama?

Mynor Rodriguez: I believe he is one of the most qualified Americans to be President.

Matt Ortega: he is one of the most genuine people I’ve ever met in politics. Thinks he is qualified for any number of posts.

Comment from crowd: Regarding Bill Richardson, he has had problems in the past regarding the Wen Ho Lee. Same problems that migrants face.

Regarding Alberto Gonzales, we have to hold each other accountable, too.

Marisa Treviño: We are still at the point where we are very independent. We have to learn how to come together and support when we have a qualified candidate.

Matt Ortega: thankful to everyone for attending. Genuinely showing interest in what we are doing.

Mynor Rodriguez – wants to give a plug to Juan Garcia down in Corpus Cristi who has been able to build coalitions. Keep an eye on him.

[UPDATE] Matt Ortega has the video feed from the panel up at his blog.

 
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Posted by on July 18, 2008 in Netroots Nation